TheSwamp
CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: deegeecees on October 17, 2006, 01:54:28 PM
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I have a user here that cannot WBlock anything out, nor can they copy/paste. I'm stumped, anybody have a clue as to whats going on?
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OOOoooops, could someone move this to the appropriate forum?
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layers locked/frozen etc?
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layers locked/frozen etc?
No.
I don't think I missed any of the obvious settings.
This is really strange.
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What's the error message and/or exact behavior exhibited?
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What's the error message and/or exact behavior exhibited?
Dude!
MP!
Dood! Your avatar is FREEKING ME OUT!
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Here's the scenario:
AutoCAD 2002 vanilla w/modified menu structure (Not modded by me)
WBlock command has not been undefined
All commands are in tact
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Have you tried shutting down AutoCAD and restarting it?
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Dood! Your avatar is FREEKING ME OUT!
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Behavior:
Command: wblock
(dialog opens) select objects, define base point, set file name and dir, (convert to block/retain/delete does not work)
nothing happens.
Then tried a command line call:
Command: -WBLOCK
Enter name of existing block or
[= (block=output file)/* (whole drawing)] <define new drawing>:
Specify insertion base point: INT
of
Select objects: Specify opposite corner: 847 found
Select objects:
Error writing/closing file.
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Have tried saving to write friendly directories...
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OK, now I gotta turn Avatars back on to see this...
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Have you rebooted the puter?
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No.
Trying...
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Reboot and nada...
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Well now you know it's a setting and not a glitch in the system.
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TURNING AVATARS OFF!!!!
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Yes sir.
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try this topic http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=9857.0
this (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=7450124&linkID=2475161) should help those of you sending the drawings there is also another patch for those who get the error when receiving drawings saved down from 2007.I still cant believe Autodesk released 2007 with such a fundemental flaw.Weve already had irate clients complaining about the problem when they receive drawings
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Is this behavior occurring in all drawings or just certain ones?
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V.M.: A.C.2002
C.G.: Just the one drawing.
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sounds like a corrupt entity to me.
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Trying V.M.s fix...
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Purge / Audit the drawing? I have seen this before, and I think and Audit fixed it, but can't remember for sure.
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Great, I just looked for acdb17.dll, and there is no such file in all of her C:. Put the new one in her ACAD2002 dir, and restarted AC, went to open the infected file, and I don't know which one it is. She's in a mtg, and I'm in limbo.
Phhht...
Thanks for the quick response time.
Beers for all!
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Great, I just looked for acdb17.dll, and there is no such file in all of her C: ...
VM's fix is for AutoCAD 2007 (acdb17.dll is said version specific file if I'm not mistaken). The little I pretend to have understood about the problem is that it is caused by AutoCAD 2007 dumbing down the drawing to AutoCAD 2000 format. The fix remedies AutoCAD 2007 <in theory> so that when it downgrades the drawing it doesn't cause a problem for earlier versions of AutoCAD, like 2002. Did that make sense? Sorry?
Edit: fixed pathetic spelling, pathetic grammar remains.
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Did that make sense?
Absolutely.
Sorry?
No need.
Auditing the drawing...
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I have seen the same thing with drawings that we receive from one client in particular, but I have never been able to find a solution, so I will be watching this thread with interest.
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Started a new drawing, inserted suspect drawing @0,0, xploded, and voila!
All is well.
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From the Adesk Website:
This hotfix will correct a problem where cut and paste, copy and paste, block and insert, wblock and insert, and drag and drop operations fail in drawings that are saved in AutoCAD® 2000 and AutoCAD® Release 14 file formats.
If you open or create a file in AutoCAD 2007 and save it in AutoCAD 2000 or AutoCAD Release 14 file formats and then open the drawing in AutoCAD 2000, 2000i, 2002 or AutoCAD Release 14 and attempt to cut and paste, copy and paste, block and insert, wblock and insert, or drag and drop objects, then these operations will fail.
Once the hotfix is installed, drawings that are subsequently saved in AutoCAD 2000 and AutoCAD Release 14 formats will work as expected. However, drawings that were previously saved in these formats from AutoCAD 2007 will continue to have the problem unless they are resaved with the hotfix applied. The 2000 from 2007 Find Utility below can be used to help identify those drawings. If you have a large number of drawings that need to be resaved, DWG TrueConvert is a free utility that will make the job easier. Make sure you apply the hotfix to DWG TrueConvert before resaving the drawings. (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=7450124&linkID=7139221)
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Beers for me too.
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This is the fix:
Started a new drawing, inserted suspect drawing @0,0, xploded, and voila!
All is well.
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This is the fix:
Well, that may have worked for that drawing, but what about a drawing that has more than just things in ModelSpace?
Using Insert only brings in Modelspace.....Using the TrueConvert tool you can save the file as a 2007 file then resave as a 2000 format file and it should also fix the problem, but leave any Paperspace items/tabs intact.
For the next time.....:-)
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I apologize for not being thorough. Been doing the Headless Chicken Dance here alot. We only have 2002, so thats (unfortunately) not an option. We intercepted this file from one of our clients, so we would have to send it back and show the client how to do this, or redraw the Pspace objects.
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Yes, it is, an option. You do not have to have ANY version of AutoCad installed to use TrueConvert.....it is a standalone program.
Check it out! (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=8077792)
HTH
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If its not a free app, then I don't think it would be an option. MIS has my dept handicapped, bound gagged, and hogtied. Getting an application with such a limited use would never get through.
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DWG TrueConvert™
This FREE* download translates any AutoCAD or AutoCAD-based drawing file for compatibility with AutoCAD Release 14 through AutoCAD 2007.
*FREE products subject to the terms and conditions of the end-user license agreement that accompanies download of the software.
IOW, it's free.... ;-)
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Yeah!
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Strangest thing Ive seen in a CAD drawing was two layers named exactly the same. :?
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That's nothin'
I had one that when I opened it a voice came out saying "Yeah the coffee tastes like carp but you need it".
I think it might have had a virus embedded because now I hear it every morning. :|
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Mav,
That's one of the new voices in your head.
Drawings can't talk.
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*Spicoli* "Chaaaa"
Just wait until you get one.
*Walks off muttering "stick to the plan..."*
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That's nothin'
I had one that when I opened it a voice came out saying "Yeah the coffee tastes like carp but you need it".
I think it might have had a virus embedded because now I hear it every morning. :|
Could be triggered from an application event in VBA.
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As for the items in paperspace? If and only if you've taken the pains to rename each tab, you can use design center to drag and drop each tab from the corrupt file into the new one and voila, your drawing is back in business
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Could be triggered from an application event in VBA.
Volume of Beverage Aquired?
Very Bad A.M.?
Vicious Bed Astrangement?
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Voluptuous Blonde Aquaintance
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Sorry to break into your little group here but.....
When a command like BLOCK disappears completely, try it with a leading period, say .BLOCK This is different from the the minus sign, which uses the release 13 version of the command.
There is a command UNDEFINE that makes a command disappear, but REDEFINE brings it back. It's a favorite dirty trick of mine. It's in the ACAD help file. :-)
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Sorry to break into your little group here but.....
When a command like BLOCK disappears completely, try it with a leading period, say .BLOCK This is different from the the minus sign, which uses the release 13 version of the command.
It's not an R13 version of the command, it's just a command-line version of the command. The hyphen merely suppresses the dialog box. For some commands (such as PURGE), this gives you options that aren't available in the dialog box.
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Another simple fix for this issue is to export to R14 dxf, then close the drawing. Upon opening the dxf and saving as DWG all should be right with the world.