Topic: AUTOCAD 2007 DISCOVERIES

[ELOQUINTET]

i was reading some of the guides for 2007 today and found a few confusing features i'd like to make others aware of if they aren't yet. firstly i see that you can now perform command switches from your icon to load your support paths ex. \s "c:\acad;lsp;assemblies etc. etc" the problem i found with this is that i haven't been able to define 2 support destinations as autodesk like to keep thier stuff in application data and i like to keep mine outside as recommended. so basically when i define my paths it loads autocad and only puts in mine wiping out autocads. i don't understand what the point is of this as users will always have their custom stuff seperate from acad. another thing that i noticed is that in the customization files section there is now a section for custom icon location which by default is in application data too. i'm not sure how this will work with enterprise cui file. autodesk really needs to have a thorough webcast or something to explain to users what their intent is for developing and structuring things as they have. i can't make any sense out of it and i consider myself smart. if they were looking to develop customization that is intuitive they have miserably failed in my opinion. i've only scratched the surface i'm sure i'll discover more as i dig deeper, man i love this sh**  :pissed:

[glee]

Thanks for posting the problems you are facing as you keep digging into 2007. 
I agree with you in that I tend to place all my custom support folders outside of application data folders.  Specificaly on the server where all the other workstations access them.  keeps everything more or less standardized. 
Can you change where autocad points to for the customization files folder?  I would assume this would be allowed.  Or am I wrong?

[ELOQUINTET]

i did a brief test but pretty much abandoned it when i read that you can only path a max of 15 folders. we have more than 15 folders for our custom stuff alone so i guess this wouldn't work. i also ran into the problem that it does not allow you to path ex. acad\lsp\wiring. in other words folders that are nested within subfolders. as far as moving the acad files to a centralized location i'll have to see i did a quick test and had problems. i will test more toroughly tomorrow. good night zzzzzzzzzzz

[glee]

I have 3 folders I map to. 
The custom menus all reference to the folders they need within the mns. file.  I guess those get changed to cui?
my acad.lsp preloads other lisp routines I need that need to work with some of my buttons.  So I guess having only 15 max should not be a problem.  I hope. 
I wonder why there is a 15 folder limit? 

[ELOQUINTET]

i have been encounter this internal error when trying to click on any command while in my enterprise cui. it does not occur while in acad. i installed 2007 at home last night at it works fine but at work i get this error. i was wondering if anyone here has any idea as to what might be causing this to occur. i was wondering what is just in time debugging, apparently it's a little late rather than just in time  :ugly:


Application does not support just-in-time (JIT)
debugging. See the end of this message for details.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: InvalidArgument=Value of '8' is not valid for 'index'.
Parameter name: index
   at System.Windows.Forms.ImageList.ImageCollection.get_Item(Int32 index)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.BitmapCache.GetImage(String resourceId, Boolean small, Boolean return_null)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.BitmapCache.GetImage(String resourceIdSmall, String resourceIdLarge, Boolean small)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.MainForm.getStandaloneOrCustomResourceDllBitmap(CUITreeNode node, String smallImageName, String largeImageName)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.MainForm.populateToolbarPreview(Toolbar toolbar, CUITreeNode node)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.MainForm.CustPage_TreeViewControl_ItemSelected(Object sender, TVCItemSelectedArgs e)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.TreeViewControl.FireSelectedItemEvent(TVCItemSelectedArgs arg)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.MultiSelectTreeview.FireSelectedItemEvent()
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.MultiSelectTreeview.SelectNode(TreeNode node, Boolean fireEvent)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.MultiSelectTreeview.OnStartSelect(TreeNode node)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.MultiSelectTreeview.OnBeforeSelect(TreeViewCancelEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.TvnSelecting(NMTREEVIEW* nmtv)
   at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WmNotify(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.TreeView.WndProc(Message& m)
   at Autodesk.AutoCAD.Customization.MultiSelectTreeview.WndProc(Message& message)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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acdbmgd
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/AcdbMgd.DLL
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msvcm80
    Assembly Version: 8.0.50608.0
    Win32 Version: 8.00.50727.42
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-ww_0de06acd/msvcm80.dll
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System
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
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System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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acmgd
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/acmgd.DLL
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AcDxUi
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/AcDxUi.DLL
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AcDx
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/AcDx.DLL
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AcDxUi.resources
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/en-US/AcDxUi.resources.DLL
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AcMgdShared
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/AcMgdShared.DLL
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AcLayer
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/AcLayer.DLL
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AcLayer.resources
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/en-US/AcLayer.resources.DLL
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AcCustomize
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/AcCustomize.DLL
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AcCui
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/AcCui.DLL
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System.Design
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Design/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Design.dll
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acmgdinternal
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/acmgdinternal.DLL
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AcMNUParser
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/AcMNUParser.DLL
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AcCustomize.resources
    Assembly Version: 17.0.54.0
    Win32 Version: 17.0.54.0
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%202007/en-US/AcCustomize.resources.DLL
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Microsoft.VisualBasic
    Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
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System.Configuration
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
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System.Data
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
    CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_32/System.Data/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Data.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
Application does not support Windows Forms just-in-time (JIT)
debugging. Contact the application author for more
information.

[ELOQUINTET]

o yeah and i've reinstalled several time with the same results 

[Jim Yadon]

Something I was contending with last night was the workspaces issue. It seems that the ARG file no longer holds the work space setup information. It's a pity really because I used to control the access to a couple of verticals from the command line in the LNK that way. Some verticals just don't play well together. PSI, RCIM, MV and someothers I can't think of right now.