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CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: hudster on December 05, 2006, 12:19:03 PM
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Anyone heard any rumours of what is coming in 2008?
I know it's currently in the Beta testing stage, but I've not heard of what the new features will be.
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... I not even start or became familiar using the 2007 - and now they will come up with a newer one...
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Anyone heard any rumours of what is coming in 2008?
I know it's currently in the Beta testing stage, but I've not heard of what the new features will be.
That's 'cause anyone who knows is under NDA! Like me. :-D They'll probably start leaking stuff in January or February.
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Well, hopefully they will improve dyna blocks to include 3d features and work out the bugs that have been presented here and I'm sure at AUGI. I hope they improve their vertical platforms too. ADT roof structures and slabs are in dire need of overhauls. They also need to consider the KISS format. It has become very cumbersome and complicated. Each release they change things and you have to relearn. They don't just improve it, they change how you do it. And the help files, if anything should be changed, these should either be helpful, or to keep things simple for Autodesk, change the name of these files to the "Boast" files. Every time I need help with something, I check the help files, and all I read is how great this feature is. Nothing in there tells me how I'm supposed to use it, just a few things about what the feature can do for productivity and only the stuff on the surface that got me to the point where I'm needing help. So, needless to say, I've spent a lot of time searching google for an article or 5 that someone was so gracious to write up explaining it. As for productivity, I'm sure I'll get there, when I've fully learned how to use ADT. And they wonder why people haven't fully embraced ADT or Revit.
:realmad: :realmad: :realmad: Thanks for asking that question. Guess I needed to vent.
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I hope they improve their vertical platforms too.
Don't get me started on ABS 2007, or should I say ABS 2007.1. *sigh*
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I hope they improve their vertical platforms too.
Don't get me started on ABS 2007, or should I say ABS 2007.1. *sigh*
I've given up on Land Desktop. They stopped making any improvements to it years ago, and it seems that each new version of that just has more and more problems.
Luckily Civil-3D seems to finally be far enough along that it's actually usable for a complete project cycle, although it can be frustrating... Civil-3D still can't quite do everything Land Desktop could do, but overall it's quite a bit more powerful, and definitely more fun to use. Also, much easier to keep inside the company standards.
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That was one thing that didnt' really happen at AU this year. I didn't attend the one technology session that **might** have discussed new ideas, but everything else didn't show anything for upcoming releases...
Guess we just need to sit back and wait...
Pieter
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I got a few customer questionaires earlier in the year, and they focused on whether users wanted more PDF functionality, such as PDF underlay.
That would be good. we get loads of PDF drawings, and have to wait ages for the architect/client/contractor to send us DWG's.
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As Kate says...
Anyone who knows cannot say, and anyone who says does not know....
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I got a few customer questionaires earlier in the year, and they focused on whether users wanted more PDF functionality, such as PDF underlay.
I hope they just improve the PDF functionality they now have. Their current PDF plotter driver sucks!
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If < when > [you] get a chance to lift your head and have a look around at what people are doing with DWF's and the improved technology recently [you] may consider changing.
nothing prophetic, just an observation.
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As Kate says...
Anyone who knows cannot say, and anyone who says does not know....
Who's saying anything?
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I prefer using DWFs, but whenever I issue a DWF to anyone, I almost always get the reply, what is this file, I can't open it, can you send me a PDF etc etc.
Mostly from whining Architects who can't even use osnaps.
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Mostly from whining Architects who can't even use osnaps.
HEY!!
I do too use the Osnap. What you have more Osnaps? Is this something you created a routine for? I would love a Osnap that would snap to the endpoint of a line. The nearest Osnap gets close but does not grab the end.
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Try the endpoint snap. *hehe*
How about the temporary track points or from? Those are always fun to see people's faces when you mention them. "What are those ones for?"
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Try the endpoint snap. *hehe*
How about the temporary track points or from? Those are always fun to see people's faces when you mention them. "What are those ones for?"
All kidding aside. The From Osnap is mapped to my F1 key and it is used heavily. All other Osnaps I access thru Nmenonic keys. Fastest way with no programing, IMHO
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All kidding aside. The From Osnap is mapped to my F1 key and it is used heavily. All other Osnaps I access thru Nmenonic keys. Fastest way with no programing, IMHO
-->temporary keyboard overrides<--
Found in the CUI, so only for 2006 and later. Don't always work quite right, but handy indeed. One of my favorite new features.
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-->temporary keyboard overrides<--
Found in the CUI, so only for 2006 and later. Don't always work quite right, but handy indeed. One of my favorite new features.
I did not like the temporary keyboard overrides so I place mine in the Keyboard shortcut section by creating a custom command and dragging it to the Keyboard Section. Works with no problems so far. In the .MNS days, I had F1 mapped to the From Osnap; however if Acad hiccup or did something weird, F1 would revert back to Help. Why Autocad feels the need to follow Microsoft so closely that is needs to place a hardly used item (not bragging) on a valuable piece of KEY real estate is beyond me. :ugly: especially when there is 3 other ways to get there. Always a pet peeved of mine. :pissed:
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I always use mnemonics too, with the mbuttonpan disabled, for quicker osnap access.
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Who's saying anything?
Huh?
The point is: It's a waste of time to ask. If someone wants to know what is going on with a beta product, they can sign up and join the beta team at http://myfeedback.autodesk.com
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Sorry, you came across to me as if any of us making comments about what we hope is in the upcoming release, were as though we were stating (as if we had any idea) what is in there. Thanks for the link, though.
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What's the codename for '08? I just got an email today or yesterday about project "nile"?? I think that's what it was - don't remember. Plus, I haven't had a chance to check it out.
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What's the codename for '08? .....
Psst... it's Casino Royale
remember you saw and heard nothing.
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Does anyone know WHEN it's coming? I can't seem to find it.
March / April? Maybe?
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I believe it's the 15th of March. or is it april.. No that is tax day...
Probably March then... unless it's late this year...
Pieter
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Thanks Pieter
Just trying to figure out if they should upgrade to 2007 or 2008.
I wonder...
This may or may not have been posted already, but here's a heads up for those still using 2004 based products.
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7176852
Now is the perfect time to accelerate your ideas and get a leg up on the competition. Upgrading your Autodesk® 2004 software will help you to effectively realize your vision and gain that competitive edge-not to mention save money. On March 15, 2007, AutoCAD® 2004 and Autodesk 2004-based software will be retired. And if you upgrade by July 31, 2006, you’ll save up to 20% on our latest 2007 software when you purchase with Autodesk® Subscription.
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Code name is "Spago" for acad2008.
...and I think releasing it on March 15 (the Ides of March) may be too jinxy!
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2004-based products are being retired on March 15th. (That's official.) Based on timelines for previous releases, the NDA on Spago will be dropped around March 1st, and the launch will be around the 23rd.
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Something else I just found out about today...
Legacy Program -> http://tinyurl.com/2k8369
The Autodesk® Legacy Program provides customers who own valid licenses of select retired Autodesk software the opportunity to purchase discounted, new licenses of current Autodesk® products.
Under the Legacy Program Autodesk is offering customers with AutoCAD® Release 14, AutoCAD 2000, AutoCAD 2000i, and AutoCAD 2002-based software licenses the opportunity to purchase new licenses of current Autodesk products at a 30% discount off the Suggested Retail Price when purchased with Autodesk Subscription. Autodesk Subscription is required at time of Legacy purchase.
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As Kate says...
Anyone who knows cannot say, and anyone who says does not know....
Who's saying anything?
hey, I'm just saying.....
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Just trying to figure out if they should upgrade to 2007 or 2008.
I wonder...
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I'm not sure about upgrading or not. Usually, the even releases are the more stable and better used version.
I'm hoping 2008 has some good feautures even though I haven't heard much hype about anything...
Pieter
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I'm not sure about upgrading or not. Usually, the even releases are the more stable and better used version.
I'm hoping 2008 has some good feautures even though I haven't heard much hype about anything...
Pieter
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I'm not sure about upgrading or not. Usually, the even releases are the more stable and better used version.
I'm hoping 2008 has some good feautures even though I haven't heard much hype about anything...
The fact that you haven't been hearing anything might be good news. If Autodesk is concentrating on fixing the TONS and TONS of bugs in their products in the upcoming release, that's fine with me (except for Civil-3D, of course, which still needs lots of work in many respects, not just bug fixes).
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I'm not sure about upgrading or not. Usually, the even releases are the more stable and better used version.
I'm hoping 2008 has some good feautures even though I haven't heard much hype about anything...
Pieter
My dilema is that if AutoCAD 2004 retires on March 15th and the 'tentative' (for lack of a better word) release date is also March 15th, what happens to us in regards to pricing?
Ah well, I'm not at that site right now and have bigger fish to fry at the moment. I've given as much info to them as I could, now it's up to their 'people' to get quotes for what they want.
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My dilema is that if AutoCAD 2004 retires on March 15th and the 'tentative' (for lack of a better word) release date is also March 15th, what happens to us in regards to pricing?
For my personal version, I only upgrade when I have to, but that doesn't mean I'll install the upgrade. Very often it'll sit for quite some time.
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I'm actually voting opposed to Randy's notion.
I usually keep the previous version on the computer as a safety net.
But I do install the new version as soon as I get the box, and a spare minute to install it.
I want to see how some new features effect certain processes, see if there's any trouble using any customizations with the new release, to take care of that before the proverbial turd hits the fan, and well... to play :-p
Plus, I'm the CAD go to guy here... I want to be able to advise and answer to any situation that comes up. I don't want to settle for reading the release notes... aside from not having the attention span for it.
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I'm actually voting opposed to Randy's notion.
I usually keep the previous version on the computer as a safety net.
But I do install the new version as soon as I get the box, and a spare minute to install it.
I want to see how some new features effect certain processes, see if there's any trouble using any customizations with the new release, to take care of that before the proverbial turd hits the fan, and well... to play :-p
Plus, I'm the CAD go to guy here... I want to be able to advise and answer to any situation that comes up. I don't want to settle for reading the release notes... aside from not having the attention span for it.
Civil 3D (and even the last 2 LDT releses) will break you of that. I may set up a virtual machine to poke around with, but don't dare risk a production seat without a l o n g evaluation.
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I'm actually voting opposed to Randy's notion.
I usually keep the previous version on the computer as a safety net.
But I do install the new version as soon as I get the box, and a spare minute to install it.
I want to see how some new features effect certain processes, see if there's any trouble using any customizations with the new release, to take care of that before the proverbial turd hits the fan, and well... to play :-p
Plus, I'm the CAD go to guy here... I want to be able to advise and answer to any situation that comes up. I don't want to settle for reading the release notes... aside from not having the attention span for it.
Civil 3D (and even the last 2 LDT releses) will break you of that. I may set up a virtual machine to poke around with, but don't dare risk a production seat without a l o n g evaluation.
With Civil 3D you can't use the prior release on the same machine, even with standalone installations? Or does it rewrite too many settings that can't be reverted without repair-installing the old version?
I am lucky to be using vanilla in many tech-regards.
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I'm actually voting opposed to Randy's notion.
I usually keep the previous version on the computer as a safety net.
But I do install the new version as soon as I get the box, and a spare minute to install it.
I want to see how some new features effect certain processes, see if there's any trouble using any customizations with the new release, to take care of that before the proverbial turd hits the fan, and well... to play :-p
Plus, I'm the CAD go to guy here... I want to be able to advise and answer to any situation that comes up. I don't want to settle for reading the release notes... aside from not having the attention span for it.
I have the advantage of usually beta testing the latest, and the installations at the office to cover those aspects.
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'07 worked better on top of '06 than '05 did with '05. '06 efffectively trashed any '05 assemblies and forced everything to '06. That would have been OK, but '06 was a waste of disk space until SP2 was available. Hence I no longer trust any new version to not hose my current projects until I can evaluate them thoroughly.
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'07 worked better on top of '06 than '05 did with '05. '06 efffectively trashed any '05 assemblies and forced everything to '06. That would have been OK, but '06 was a waste of disk space until SP2 was available. Hence I no longer trust any new version to not hose my current projects until I can evaluate them thoroughly.
I ran into a similar issue with Land Desktop 2007. Installing 2007 breaks access to the Aecc Application object in 2006, which means none of my custom LDD/CDC extensions would no longer work in 2006. Initially, 2007 seemed more-stable than 2006, mainly because of improvements to the CUI, so we decided to just try jumping to 2007. By the time we discovered this was a mistake, we had too many files converted to 2007 format, and going back to 2006 was no longer feasible. So we had to just suffer until SP1 came out.
It's made us very leary of installing ANY new Autodesk software, at least not until they release a service pack. And as the ill-fated Civil-3D 2007 SP1 and Land Desktop 2007 SP2 illustrated, it's better to wait for a while before installing the service packs, too.
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I am on 2005 , so this question is for 2006 and up, is it possible yet to create your own block flyouts w/in paletts? I have a huge block library and would love to group them w/in a flyout...ie we have a certain sofa 20-7883 but with that are multiple items numbers covering loveseats etc w/in the same family of product and for me to make a separtate tab for each is waaaay to much.
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I am on 2005 , so this question is for 2006 and up, is it possible yet to create your own block flyouts w/in paletts? I have a huge block library and would love to group them w/in a flyout...ie we have a certain sofa 20-7883 but with that are multiple items numbers covering loveseats etc w/in the same family of product and for me to make a separtate tab for each is waaaay to much.
Dynamic blocks with visiblity states would be the way I'd go, and have it all loaded from a tool palette.
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I am on 2005 , so this question is for 2006 and up, is it possible yet to create your own block flyouts w/in paletts? I have a huge block library and would love to group them w/in a flyout...ie we have a certain sofa 20-7883 but with that are multiple items numbers covering loveseats etc w/in the same family of product and for me to make a separtate tab for each is waaaay to much.
Yep, it sounds like you might be able to use Dynamic Blocks to dramatically reduce the number of blocks in your library.
But still, I agree that Autocad sorely needs a way to group Block and Command tools into flyouts in Tool Palettes. And no, it doesn't exist as of 2007 - I don't know about 2008. The Dimension Tools can be placed in a flyout, but not the Block and Command tools.
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http://www.autodesk.com/preview2008
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http://dwf.blogs.com/beyond_the_paper/2007/02/autocad_2008_ak.html (http://dwf.blogs.com/beyond_the_paper/2007/02/autocad_2008_ak.html)
http://heidihewett.blogs.com/my_weblog/2007/02/autocad_2008_th.html (http://heidihewett.blogs.com/my_weblog/2007/02/autocad_2008_th.html)
http://www.dotsoft.com/acad2008.htm (http://www.dotsoft.com/acad2008.htm)
http://pressreleases.autodesk.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=203%3C%2Ftd%3E (http://pressreleases.autodesk.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=203%3C%2Ftd%3E)
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AutoCAD 2008 – 64-bit application migration.
http://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interface/2007/02/autocad_2008_64.html
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and definitively ..
AutoCAD 2008 Compatibility
Do AutoCAD 2004/2005/2006/2007 third-party applications work with AutoCAD 2008 32-bit?
Do AutoCAD 2004/2005/2006/2007 third-party applications work with AutoCAD 2008 64-bit?
Can I run AutoCAD 2008 side-by-side with other AutoCAD platform–based applications?
Is AutoCAD 2008 compatible with AutoCAD LT?
http://autodesk.blogs.com/between_the_lines/2007/02/autocad_2008_co.html
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and
System Requirements for AutoCAD 2008
http://autodesk.blogs.com/between_the_lines/2007/02/system_requirem.html
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It appears Wipeouts are finally getting a ridgey didge API as well......'bout time too.
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... and in Novemer I'd just finished re-writing my balloon and multi-leader tools .. now written off to experience.
I can see the jogged dimensions getting a lot of use in a few offices.
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It appears Wipeouts are finally getting a ridgey didge API as well......'bout time too.
Hehe I finally cracked how to do a boodgy woodsy sendcommand and add wipeout to blocks in 2007 and they fix it.
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It appears Wipeouts are finally getting a ridgey didge API as well......'bout time too.
Hehe I finally cracked how to do a boodgy woodsy sendcommand and add wipeout to blocks in 2007 and they fix it.
wha??
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It appears Wipeouts are finally getting a ridgey didge API as well......'bout time too.
Hehe I finally cracked how to do a boodgy woodsy sendcommand and add wipeout to blocks in 2007 and they fix it.
wha??
from Airplane, the movie:
Randy: Can I get you something?
Second Jive Dude: 'S'mofo butter layin' me to da' BONE! Jackin' me up... tight me!
Randy: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
First Jive Dude: Cutty say 'e can't HANG!
Jive Lady: Oh stewardess! I speak jive.
Randy: Oh, good.
Jive Lady: He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know if you can help him.
Randy: All right. Would you tell him to just relax and I'll be back as soon as I can with some medicine?
Jive Lady: Jus' hang loose, blood. She gonna catch ya up on da' rebound on da' med side.
Second Jive Dude: What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!
Jive Lady: Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da' help!
First Jive Dude: Say 'e can't hang, say seven up!
Jive Lady: Jive @$$ dude don't got no brains anyhow! Hmmph!
hehe... just made me think of that movie when I read the post by Bryco (Falco?)
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My apologies for the spelling
boojie woojie is perhaps correct.
I first heard it used by my opponent in a game of backgammon, as in he'ld yell "Boojie Woojie" while I was rolling the dice.
As he always won I took it to mean something with a little magic in it, but not necessarily good magic.
Anyway I'm looking forward to being able to code properly with wipeouts.
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Its a nice release for those that are on subscription. From automatic text sizing to the ability to create breaks in dimensions without exploding them (they'll stay as one entity) I think people will be pleasantly pleased with it. I've been a beta tester for the product... its not something to get excited about, but it has a lot of nice little additions. 3D rendering in the program (for the individuals that use AutoCAD for 3D) is much better as well.
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Have Autodesk added any bnew features to the tool palletes?What I'd love them to have soprted is the limitations of the visibility states.Like having visibilty states within visibility states.So I could have far more control over what shows and what doesnt.Does the CUI open any faster?
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Have Autodesk added any bnew features to the tool palletes?What I'd love them to have soprted is the limitations of the visibility states.Like having visibilty states within visibility states.So I could have far more control over what shows and what doesnt.Does the CUI open any faster?
The Tool Palettes are basically the same, but you'll find a lot of the dialogs can now be docked on the side of the screen. As a result, many features are more at the tip of your fingers. Also the Layer pulldown can now be docked on the dashboard so it can take up less space as well.
CUI has been tweaked, but I can't vouch for opening times (I've never had it go real slow...)
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has anyone checked out any of these?
http://www.myfeedz.com/articles/tags/autocad%202008
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I've noticed that
autodesk.autocad.2008 is available on the Discussion Group
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If < when > [you] get a chance to lift your head and have a look around at what people are doing with DWF's and the improved technology recently [you] may consider changing.
nothing prophetic, just an observation.
people don't listen, my boss told me stop using dwf's for issue, cos clients can't open them, I say here's the web site, but they say IT dept won't let them load dwf viewer. argggghhhhh
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MATTS
Multiline Attributes in 2008 (http://autodesk.blogs.com/between_the_lines/2007/03/autocad_2008_ma.html)
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yeah i saw that too sweet it's about time. i also like how you can have multi column tables from a single excel file and you can link the two together.
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people don't listen, my boss told me stop using dwf's for issue, cos clients can't open them, I say here's the web site, but they say IT dept won't let them load dwf viewer. argggghhhhh
With the new DWF standard they only need to have installed .net framework 3.0 .
So it's just a matter of time and your problem wil be over.
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people don't listen, my boss told me stop using dwf's for issue, cos clients can't open them, I say here's the web site, but they say IT dept won't let them load dwf viewer. argggghhhhh
With the new DWF standard they only need to have installed .net framework 3.0 .
So it's just a matter of time and your problem wil be over.
I take it that will be in with vista.
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Yes, for XP you can download it here (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=10CC340B-F857-4A14-83F5-25634C3BF043&displaylang=en).
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MATTS
Multiline Attributes in 2008 (http://autodesk.blogs.com/between_the_lines/2007/03/autocad_2008_ma.html)
COOL!
Just had a user ask about doing that kind of thing with our view title dblock. I said; "I don't think it's possible, but I'll check it out."
Hopefully our '08 copy will come soon, and after I roll it out I can say: "Oh, about that view title thing... well, <wipes brow> it took a lot of work and tweaking, but I was able to get it to work." :evil:
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and he'll say "birdy you are a miracle man"