Author Topic: reorder attributes in source dwg (Read 5010 times)

David Hall · « **on:** July 19, 2007, 05:50:03 PM »

Quick question, I know you can use battman to reorder the attributes on/in an inserted block, but how do you fix the original. The only way I know is to insert, explode, and re wblock it out over the original version.

deegeecees · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:01:23 PM »

The order of the atts when wblocking are the order of selection. If that helps.

But I'm sure you knew this.

David Hall · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:13:51 PM »

yea, I knew that. The problem is when it was wblocked, a few were picked out of order. Its a huge panel with terminal blocks, so there are over 150 attributes in the block. Just looking for a quick way to fix it.

CAB · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2007, 06:30:16 PM »

Wild Guess!
Perhaps you can use the "DRAWORDER" command to fix the problem.

deegeecees · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2007, 07:07:55 PM »

Redefine? With an ObjectDBX interface would be something to consider.

Krushert · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2007, 07:20:44 PM »

Quote from: CmdrDuh on July 19, 2007, 05:50:03 PM

Quick question, I know you can use battman to reorder the attributes on/in an inserted block, but how do you fix the original. The only way I know is to insert, explode, and re wblock it out over the original version.

Your close.
Insert you block into drawing. Use Battman to reorganize to your hearts content. then Wblock the unexploded block out and save over the original.

There is something I am forgetting so before saving over test it by saving as different name or to a different location and then reinsert the block to see if the order is revised.

I think I will go test this. It been a long time since I had to do this.

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Okay I tested it.
and it works as I described.

Buuuuuttttt
There is always a butt (NO Greg, I did not call your name. IF I wanted you I would have said ~~butt~~ ...... Never mind)

This might be a bug or something. I don't remember it doing this in ADT 05. But then again my memory is going to places I never been

I open the newly saved over block file and all the attributes were viewing as if they were left center justified. When gripped and checked with the properties pallet the justification read middle center justified as they are supposed to be. I change them to left justified and back to middle justified and they rid correctly. A quick use of the qselect command aught to help make your life easier in selecting the attributes if your results are the same as mine.

MP · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2007, 07:46:08 PM »

Are they columnar attributes that can be (programmatically) ordered by their y ordinates?

deegeecees · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2007, 07:51:02 PM »

Quote from: MP on July 19, 2007, 07:46:08 PM

Are they columnar attributes that can be (programmatically) ordered by their y ordinates?

What an extraordinary idea!

MP · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2007, 07:53:19 PM »

{ sniffs for sarcasm }

Did someone already mention this and I missed it?

Sorry?

deegeecees · « **Reply #9 on:** July 19, 2007, 08:05:45 PM »

Quote from: MP on July 19, 2007, 07:53:19 PM

{ sniffs for sarcasm }

Did someone already mention this and I missed it?

Sorry?

No, I was being genuine. Hadn't thought of Y order. I'm out of practice, been dealing with nuts and bolts too much.

MP · « **Reply #10 on:** July 19, 2007, 08:50:17 PM »

Quote from: deegeecees on July 19, 2007, 08:05:45 PM

I'm out of practice, been dealing with nuts and bolts too much.

Man I hate when that happens.

deegeecees · « **Reply #11 on:** July 19, 2007, 08:57:31 PM »

Quote from: MP on July 19, 2007, 08:50:17 PM

Quote from: deegeecees on July 19, 2007, 08:05:45 PM
I'm out of practice, been dealing with nuts and bolts too much.

Man I hate when that happens.

Pays better.

MP · « **Reply #12 on:** July 19, 2007, 08:58:31 PM »

Quote from: deegeecees on July 19, 2007, 08:57:31 PM

Pays better.

Compared to what exactly and who?

deegeecees · « **Reply #13 on:** July 19, 2007, 09:02:05 PM »

Quote from: MP on July 19, 2007, 08:58:31 PM

Quote from: deegeecees on July 19, 2007, 08:57:31 PM
Pays better.

Compared to what exactly and who?

Speaking from personal experiences, of course.

MP · « **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2007, 09:04:12 PM »

{ end thread hijack }

David Hall · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2007, 09:58:30 AM »

MP, they are somewhat columnar, but they overlap enough in the Y that I think it would be too much trouble to write that program. My brain doesn't even want to think about it. I think I will try the wblock version

thanks

MP · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:00:38 AM »

Pic?

Subtitle: I wouldn't mind thinking about it.

David Hall · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:17:53 AM »

ok, i fixed it, but had to explode the block in itself bc I was getting an error about referenceing itself.

MP, here is the dwg file for you to play with.

MP · « **Reply #18 on:** July 20, 2007, 10:40:32 AM »

Thanks Cmdr.

Looks to me like you could order them based on a multi level sort, using the attribute prompts (prefix and integer part) as the sort keys.

David Hall · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2007, 11:34:38 AM »

How would you deal with the atts at the top and bottem of the list though?

MP · « **Reply #20 on:** July 20, 2007, 11:41:34 AM »

You mean block number and type? Code would place them manually at the top, but the other 240 attribs could be ordered by the prompt, albeit by parsing into prefix and id (integer) and grouping.

CADaver · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2007, 03:58:26 PM »

Hammer and tongs approach:
Insert Block in current file
BATTMAN to reorder attributes (and "sync")
WBLOCK block to overwrite old definition.

David Hall · « **Reply #22 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:18:43 PM »

Quote from: CADaver on July 23, 2007, 03:58:26 PM

Hammer and tongs approach:
Insert Block in current file
BATTMAN to reorder attributes (and "sync")
WBLOCK block to overwrite old definition.

I did that, and it said the block referenced itself. I just opened the block, exploded it, saved, purged, closed. Problem fixed

Josh Nieman · « **Reply #23 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:24:35 PM »

Quote from: CmdrDuh on July 23, 2007, 05:18:43 PM

Quote from: CADaver on July 23, 2007, 03:58:26 PM
Hammer and tongs approach:
Insert Block in current file
BATTMAN to reorder attributes (and "sync")
WBLOCK block to overwrite old definition.
I did that, and it said the block referenced itself. I just opened the block, exploded it, saved, purged, closed. Problem fixed

If that is what fixes your problems, you may wanna add this little bit to the acaddoc.lsp

^C^C;_ai_selall;erase;^C^C-purge;A;;N;^C^Cqsave;

David Hall · « **Reply #24 on:** July 23, 2007, 05:49:16 PM »

Quote from: Josh Nieman on July 23, 2007, 05:24:35 PM

If that is what fixes your problems, you may wanna add this little bit to the acaddoc.lsp
^C^C;_ai_selall;erase;^C^C-purge;A;;N;^C^Cqsave;

Cool, let me add that right now

ronjonp · « **Reply #25 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:25:33 PM »

Quote from: CmdrDuh on July 23, 2007, 05:18:43 PM

Quote from: CADaver on July 23, 2007, 03:58:26 PM
Hammer and tongs approach:
Insert Block in current file
BATTMAN to reorder attributes (and "sync")
WBLOCK block to overwrite old definition.
I did that, and it said the block referenced itself. I just opened the block, exploded it, saved, purged, closed. Problem fixed

The self referencing block is created when a block is defined in a drawing that has the same same name as the drawing then inserted into another drawing.

Josh Nieman · « **Reply #26 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:40:20 PM »

Quote from: CmdrDuh on July 23, 2007, 05:49:16 PM

Quote from: Josh Nieman on July 23, 2007, 05:24:35 PM
If that is what fixes your problems, you may wanna add this little bit to the acaddoc.lsp
^C^C;_ai_selall;erase;^C^C-purge;A;;N;^C^Cqsave;

Cool, let me add that right now

I figured it's not a vicious macro since I probably screwed it up, and I didn't add a close command, so you can still undo and resave.

CADaver · « **Reply #27 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:46:36 PM »

Quote from: ronjonp on July 23, 2007, 06:25:33 PM

Quote from: CmdrDuh on July 23, 2007, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: CADaver on July 23, 2007, 03:58:26 PM
Hammer and tongs approach:
Insert Block in current file
BATTMAN to reorder attributes (and "sync")
WBLOCK block to overwrite old definition.
I did that, and it said the block referenced itself. I just opened the block, exploded it, saved, purged, closed. Problem fixed
The self referencing block is created when a block is defined in a drawing that has the same same name as the drawing then inserted into another drawing.

Exactly. When WBLOCKing use the "Block" option and select the block from the pull-down list. DO NOT "select objects" and select the block itself from the drawing.

Bryco · « **Reply #28 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:50:57 PM »

Another way.
Explode the block (No wblock), remake the block (chose overwrite) and pick the atts one at a time in the order you want then dispalyed.
(No express tools)

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